The Other Guys - The Most Underrated Comedy of 2010

In this episode of Almost Classic Movies, Jon and Don take a deep dive into the underrated 2010 buddy cop comedy The Other Guys, starring Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg. From hilarious desk pops to unexpected critiques of capitalism, the hosts explore why this film remains a hidden gem. They discuss memorable scenes, trivia, and the cultural impact of Adam McKay's signature humor. Plus, hear about their favorite moments, unexpected connections to real-world events, and why a Prius can be the most hilarious getaway car ever.

What’s Next:
Stay tuned as the hosts continue their countdown to Flight Risk!

Transcript

Don: [00:00:00] I just want to go somewhere and get breastfed right now.

Jon: Well, welcome to another episode of almost classic movies podcast. That is almost as classic as Dwayne Johnson ruining the DC cinematic universe. Oh, that's 

Don: a 

Jon: hot take. It's a, it's a lot of other things, but no, no, no. Um, but he definitely ruined it in my opinion 

Don: with black Adam. That's fair. You know, he was supposed to, he came in all like.

Like hot stuff like yeah, we're gonna show Marvel how to make a superhero movie and then his Still bombed 

Jon: is no like clue how to make a superhero movie though from his history 

Don: No, 

Jon: none whatsoever. So so funny to me very politically driven 

Don: I would say the closest to a [00:01:00] superhero movie he might have made would be race to which mountain?

Oh, yeah, which He's not the superhero. No, he doesn't have powers. Yeah 

Jon: in 

Don: that movie. 

Jon: No, he's just a driver at first, right? Yeah Yeah, but we're talking about Dwayne Johnson right now because he was in the movie the other guys the other guys Yes, so the goal with watching this one is that we are gearing up for 

Don: we're gearing up for flight risk Which is coming out January 24th And so there are three main actors You In flight risk.

Who are risking the flight. Yes, who are risking the flight. And that would be Mark Wahlberg, Marky Moo, Topher Grace. Topher Grace and Michelle Dockery. Who's that? Who else, or what else was she in? Michelle Dockery was, she's known for her role in Downton Abbey. Okay. [00:02:00] As Lady Mary Crawley. Okay. Um, she was also in The Gentleman, the Guy Ritchie movie.

Okay. Uh, and she's done some, she's done some other stuff, but she's been around for a little while. 

Jon: Okay, cool. Yeah. Yeah. So we're gearing up for that movie, Flight Risk, and we're starting it off with, The other guys. The other guys. Thank you. He made a face that I was like, did I say that right? No, no. Does it carry on?

No, you, no, you said, you said it right. That's already out. Um, so the premise of the other guys for those who haven't seen that movie yet, which Honestly, if you're a big fan of like Anchorman, Talladega Nights, Danny's Home, you probably have seen this movie. Yes. Uh, Misfit NYPD Detective Gamble and Hoyts, Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg are sentenced to the life behind the desk.

They hate each other and the monotony of their meaningless jobs as they, as they're forced to live in the shadows of the [00:03:00] two biggest and most hardcore cops on the force, Samuel Jackson and Dwayne Johnson. But when those guys go down for the count, Opportunity knocks for Gamble and Hoyts. Probably not saying that right, but that's just how I'm going to say it.

So moving on to what could be one of the biggest crimes in the year, can the other guys step up their game to solve the case without killing each other and destroying NYC in the process? From the director of Step Brothers, Talladega Nights, Anchorman, so on and so forth. He directed Vice. 

Don: Um, if you are familiar with that.

Um, or another way this plot could be described as yes, please. One cop decides that he isn't going to hide himself anymore, uh, and become the awesome individual cop and chick maggot chick magnet that he is maggot maggot maggot magnet that he is. [00:04:00] syncopated. And that is, I'm proud of us, Ron Burgundy. Ron 

Jon: freaking Burgundy or Gator.

Yeah. So the movie starts out pretty, um, pretty like high tension, like your stereotypical, like intense, not stereotypical, but like what you would expect from like a crime show where it's like car chasing, whatever. Yeah. But come to find out very quickly, As is narrated by uncredited Ice T. I was gonna say, is that Ice T?

That was Ice T. Uh, that was one of my trivia bits, but I thought I would mention it now cause it is kind of important. It's very important. Cause it really sets the mood of the movie. He does a really great job. He does. Um, and You just find out that it's two very like over the top ridiculous people who is Samuel Jackson and Dwayne Johnson are chasing one person over a very small, very unoffensive amount of marijuana.

In contrast [00:05:00] to what the guy ended up getting sentenced for and also what they did in the 12 million of destruction to New York City for what is like a music like taxpayer money is not gonna get any of that. 

Don: No, well, like I get the driving. Like trying to jump the tour bus, but then getting stuck in the tour bus and then driving the tour bus to just shoot Samuel L.

Jackson out of the tour bus again was insane. I forget. This was like my second time watching this movie. Oh yeah. And I've completely forgot about that opening chase seed. 

Jon: Yeah. Yeah. Um, I think it was so conversation that you, that you Dan and I had recently editor Dan had recently, uh, that may or may not have been recorded.

That may or may not be released. May or may not be at some chronicles. Anyways, we talked about it and he said that there was a movie [00:06:00] that he watched that was one of his like, Pop it on. Me and the boys are going to just watch this for like a little bit. Yeah. Like college vibes. This was my, this was one of mine.

This was for sure. Uh, yeah. I watched this a 

Don: lot when I was in college. I, uh, we had like a movie night with a bunch of bros and we watched this in high school when it came out. Oh, high school. Yeah. Came out and 

Jon: I was just thinking like high school 

Don: came out in 2010. Yeah. I was a sophomore. Yeah. No judge.

Jon: Yeah. 

Don: No. 

Jon: Sorry, I'm not old. No, that's not what I'm saying. I just, I would, in my, in my culture growing up, it would be like, whoa, like you watch this in high school. 

Don: Oh yeah. 

Jon: No, I went to public school. Yeah. Yeah. I did too. But different parents, maybe. I don't know. Who knows? Who knows? Well, definitely different parents.

I know that for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, so that the end [00:07:00] of all of that, they like go into, uh, the precinct and they all celebrate and we're more or less introduced to who is considered the other guys, which is Will Ferrell, Mark https: otter. ai And during all that, they're like figuring out like, like where they're going to celebrate who's going to do all the paperwork, which is going to be the other guys.

And while that's all occurring, there's a call coming up for another chase. Yeah. And from that point, one of my favorite scenes shows up where they're all like zip lining around and, uh, there's like one last bit of like, Go for broke moment for Dwayne Rock Johnson and Samuel L. Jackson where they take a leap of faith and you see it from start to finish where they just splat on the cement.

Go for the [00:08:00] bushes? You know it and they fist bump. There wasn't even an awning. 

Don: That's what they say at the funeral.

Jon: That is one of my favorite Like, it takes a little bit for them to say, like, there wasn't even an awning, but like, that sync, that synchronization of like, go to the bushes, you know, there wasn't even an awning. Like, I love that. That was so good. Well, 

Don: also like that shot, you're like, are they going to, like, it's just so prolonged because you watch them fall, you watch them fall all the way down.

And then you're like, Is anything going to happen? Like, like they're going to cut away, right? 

Jon: No. Right. And if you look closer to, I didn't, I've never seen this until I watched it today, probably with more updated ways of watching it and like more, you know, better screen or whatever you can actually see.

And you can see like a little bit of splatter like [00:09:00] around them, like the tiniest amount of detail. And you, but you see the 

Don: concrete crack around them. Yeah. Like they, like that was intentional. Yes. They hit it.

Yes, they did. They hit it. 

Jon: But yeah, really great line of jokes. Even before that, there are some jokes that I love. We're like the hot dog guy when they're like doing their whole like, we got, are you sure this is like worth 12 million in city damages or whatever? And the hot dog guy is like free hot dogs for life.

No drinks, no drinks. Can't do drinks. Can't afford it. I love it. And there's even another one where there are, um, well, yeah, there's, there's more to it, but 

Don: well, uh, one, two of my favorite lines are in the movie was when they were Talking about inviting everybody to the celebration like you're on the list if you know you're on the list And then the rock and Samuel Jackson are [00:10:00] storming out and the Rocks like and it's a cash bar And I'm like, that's my deepest fear cash bar.

I hate cash bars Yeah, and as well I go and then the next more is that the next morning when Will Ferrell's humming at his desk? mm hmm and Hoyts tells him to stop. Yeah, and he's like, why are you smiling? Stop smiling. And he's like now You're asking me to mask my emotions because of how it makes you feel that I will not do

Jon: It's just like they're so Like, Mark is so, Mark Wahlberg is so angry about how he got to where he is. Yeah. And Will Ferrell is so masking, like, what he is truly on the inside or whatever. Gator. Just Gator. That he's just becoming such an upstanding guy. It's insane. Oh yeah. 

Don: Yeah. 

Jon: [00:11:00] 100%. 

Don: Yeah. But, like, we're, I love the fight.

In the fight that Hoyt's gets in, in the funeral, when they're like, the captain's coming, the grieving widow's coming or walking by, they stop the fight, like, like, just pause it. Yeah, everybody's, they all just stop and stare. And they're just, yeah, they're like, sorry, sorry for your loss. We didn't do 

Jon: anything.

I mean, it 

Don: reminds me of like the middle school fights that we would have in the bathroom in between classes. It was just like a fight club. Yeah. There. Yeah. But, and then the captain comes over and breaks it, breaks it all up. That, that was, I thought it was hysterical that they were just rolling around on the ground.

Jon: Yeah. I think the funny part too, is that like the captain is like, which Michael, Michael Keaton, Michael Keaton forgot to mention that. 

Don: Yeah. 

Jon: So good. Anytime I see him, people associate him with [00:12:00] Batman. I associate him with Ray, with Ray Kroc. He was a great Roy Kroc. Roy Kroc. Thank you. Yeah. Founder. Yeah.

Love that movie. So good. Hate him so much. Well, but that also has Nick Offerman. Yeah, I said I love the movie. Yeah, it's great. Uh, anyways, yeah, he's just like whispering very hard. Like, it just sounds like he's whispering so loud that what he's whispering doesn't matter. No. And I love that kind of joke where, yeah, 

Don: it's so good.

But he's got such a deep voice, like it has to be hard for him to whisper anyway. Because like that's just coming out of his chest. 

Jon: It sounds so funny to me. Yeah, it's great. I love it. Yeah, so there's a vacuum going on in the precincts. People are trying to figure out who's next. Everyone's fighting for it.

Um, I can't remember their names. Uh, the two guys who are like, 

Don: I know who you're talking about 

Jon: stepping up. Uh, one of [00:13:00] them is brother of like another 

Don: actor. Um, so you're thinking the other guys from New Girl. You're thinking, yeah. So you're thinking of Rob Riggle who plays Martin and you're thinking of Damon Wayans Jr.

Yeah. Like those two guys. Yeah. Damon Wayans Jr. Uh, you may know him. Yeah. Know him more from Coach, uh, and New Girl and. Rob Riggle, he's in a lot of stuff. Um, he was in the Hangover Stepbrothers 21 Jump Street. Yeah. Um, he's in that like roster 

Jon: Yes. Type of movies from two thousands. Yes. Yeah. Um, so anyways, they feel like they're the ones that are gonna step up next, but they're doing it.

They're still, they're doing it by the books, whereas like, um, the other guys are trying to do it not by the books, and they're getting just like dragged through the coals for it. Yeah. In whatever way, shape, or [00:14:00] form. And that's kind of, I don't know, it's kind of weird. Like, that's kind of the end of act one, I suppose, and that's how the rest of the movie is like formally kicked off.

Like, now we are watching. The other guys where it was formally Samuel L. Jackson and Dwayne The Rock Johnson. Yeah, they're not their movie But like that's the whole setup. Yeah, it's a longer movie than you would expect to it's like almost two 

Don: hours Yeah, and like the setup for this movie is really well, it's really well thought out You know as there's I would say in this movie.

There's not really a wasted scene There really isn't no, it, it moves, there's a really, it's a really good, it's a really good pacing. I'm like, I paused it for a second mid watching and I'm like, wow, we're already like 45 minutes and it doesn't feel like we're like I've been sitting here that long, which is a test, which is a testament of a great movie.

Yeah. Um, but I think it's hysterical when they're dry, when they're when [00:15:00] Mark Wahlberg takes Alan O'Farrell. Hostage and they're going on that call. Will Ferrell floors, it just screams America. 

Jon: Did you just say America while throttling the accelerator? No, it's very exhilarating. 

Don: No, I 

Jon: didn't say that.

Cocaine's all over the car. 

Don: Didn't you say that? Like, it's very exhilarating. No, I know. I never. He said, like, I never I never put the throttle. I've never accelerated. 

Jon: I've never pushed the accelerator. Down to the floor or something like that. It was very, very exhilarating. No, it was very arousing. It's very arousing.

I mean, this movie's full of, yes, yes. It's a quotable movie for sure. I'm a peacock, man. You gotta let me fly. Peacocks don't even fly. We do a little bit. Yeah, they do a little bit as much as a penguin,

Don: which was much later in the movie, but yeah. Well, so I [00:16:00] think it's funny that, like, he screams America, and then you go to the Center for American Capitalism.

Jon: I never, with the amount of times I've watched the movie, I have never noticed. That that was a conference for American Capitalism never noticed and when I saw that now too and I was actually listening while I had captions on, but while I was listening and reading the captions, I was like watching what he was saying and I'm like, this is rich live in 

Don: access.

Jon: Yes. 

Don: I'm like, Oh, I didn't know that like there was a conference for Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk. Yes. Yes. Yes. So good. And then, you know, uh, So, and that actor is, uh, I forget his name, but under 80 he's in quite a few earlier movies. Yeah. So he's [00:17:00] Phineas Fogg and Disney's around the world in 80 days. Yes. And then he was the Roman soldier in the night at the museum movies.

That's right. So those, like, those are some of the other, like, that's where I recognize him from. Uh, so, uh, The actress, Steve Coo, Coogan, I think I'm saying his name right, not a hundred percent sure. Yeah. Um, but he plays the investment banker that is, it was a lot of people, a lot of money. 

Jon: Yes. Uh, Nigerians, Australians, yes.

Local bankers. Yes. 

Don: Yeah. Um, Ershon, David Ershon, Ershon is that character's name. And then, you know, um, Alan and Hoyts are getting [00:18:00] ready to arrest him and take him out.

And then the Australian bodyguards come up and take him. Yeah. And they just like impose their will. On to the other guys 

Jon (2): and 

Don: they take their shoes consistently. No one knows why no one knows why no one knows why. But, uh, one of the, one of the girl, one of the Australians is, is a rather attractive female and you start and she, she gives Alan this weird look that you're not quite sure why at that moment, why moment, why she gave Alan that weird look.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to think of what was next. They go back to the Police department with the, they go back to the, they walk all the way. That's right. 30 blocks. Yeah. They walk 30 blocks in their [00:19:00] socks all the way back to the police department and who's waiting for them or Sean's lawyer and the other, uh, who is, um, 

Jon: what's his name from the office?

David Wallace. David Wallace from the office. Yeah. That was like his only other part that I only know of, uh, outside of the office that he plays. 

Don: Uh, he does some other stuff, but nothing much. I'm trying to remember the Australian guy, because isn't that, he was in Ahsoka. I'm pretty sure that's him. Oh, really?

Okay. I'm pretty sure that's him. 

Jon: Okay. Um, yeah, and basically they just say like, Hey, stay away from all this. It's not worth it. Don't do it. Et cetera, et cetera. And after that whole talking to or whatever, uh, Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg end up [00:20:00] reconvening at Will Ferrell's home. Yes. And that's where we meet Will Ferrell's wife, Ava Mendez, Ava Mendez, who is Sheila, Dr.

Sheila Allen. Yes. And, uh, that's kind of where we get a little bit more of a hint into who Will Ferrell's character was once upon a time. And Mark Wahlberg is really insisting on figuring out what that is. And I don't, yeah, he gets the whole rundown of, uh, his backstory eventually. 

Don: Yeah. It's not, it's not there.

There, there, they tell him that they met because. Alan went to the ER with poison ivy on his butthole. Yes. And she was the intern doctor who was given the case. Yes. 

Jon: And they have a meal, and they kind of figure out all the pieces, uh, as to what to do next to figure out what the heck is going on. [00:21:00] Yeah? 

Don: Yeah.

And then, when, uh, he's like, who are you? Like really, what's going on? Like, Yeah. Who is that? Well, that's my wife. That's the old ball and chain. And he doesn't, doesn't, doesn't believe that this is real, real life. Yep. Doesn't buy it. Doesn't buy it at all. Yeah. And then when he's leaving, he's like, bye, Sheila.

I don't, I don't think he heard me. Bye, bye. Bye, Hoyts. Bye, Sheila. Yeah, yeah. Aw, that's odd.

And then, and then so, the next day, he gets, they get a call that they found, um, Alan's Prius. Yes, because the Australians took it. They didn't give it back. They gave back the shoes Yep, where Alan got his gun in the off in the captain's office [00:22:00] where he got his gun taken away It was given the wooden gun, which is I think hysterical.

Yep. They even finished it to a little bit Yeah. Uh, well, when it got stolen the second time, yeah, they put some linseed oil 

Jon: on it. 

Don: Oh, okay. 

Jon: That was the second time. Yeah. Got it. Got it. Um, but there was a, but there was a hobo fiasco going on. There was 

Don: a hobo orgy. 

Jon: Yes. Yes. Yes. Putting it bluntly. Yes. And a mother raccoon gave birth on the floor of it.

Yes. Yes. Uh, even left a note, not the raccoon, the, the homeless people. 

Don: But like having the like, that's like one good way to make sure that you don't get tracked is like you like a homeless gathering of men and a raccoon delivers a whole slew of babies in your car. Like they're not going to find any forensic evidence in there after all that.

Yes, uh, No fingerprints, but I think it was really funny that the officer who found the Prius was like, that's one heck of a machine there. Great [00:23:00] mileage. Great mileage. Love a good Prius. Yes. And then in the Prius, they find the phone with the pocket dial. Um, and. Uh, one, a pocket dialed one of Alan's ex girlfriends from college.

Yep. Christineth. Christineth. Christineth. Yes. 

Jon (2): She 

Jon: can't handle her at all. I can't handle the husband. 

Don: I can't handle the husband. 

Jon: Yeah. That whole scene was very awkward. So awkward. Kath was watching this whole thing with me and I was like, this feels really weird watching this right now. You will have sex with my wife.

Don: 30 blocks, like 20 miles chased us 20. 

Jon: Yeah. Yeah. Which the, which the phone did have like the bud dial on there and it was all sorted out. They got a better lead. Uh, [00:24:00] yeah, I'm trying to think of like the bulk of like the next good chunk of the movie really like is more like backstory. I think the only other memorable moment is where they find the lead that is like They find that they found, I don't want to wear this.

They found one of the places where the money or whatever is being held, which is at like a rinky dink Plaza in Jersey bank in Jersey. Yes. And they walk up and it explodes right in front of them. Which is nothing like how the action movies portray it.

Don: I have blood blisters on my hands! 

Jon: I can't hear! Yeah, and um, and all the while that's going on, you actually see the Australian man like lighting the like, lighting the place up. 

Don: Yeah, he like, they, they He's the one that made the bomb go off. [00:25:00] Yeah. So that, so the, the, the head of that guy, that is, uh, I looked it up.

That's Ray Stevenson. He was an Ahsoka and he you're talking about David Wallace. No, no. Uh, the Australian, the, the, the head Australian guy. Okay. Uh, that is Ray Stevenson and he played, uh, Roger Wesley is his name. Um, This cast is like, really, a really good cast. It is definitely stacked. For sure, for this movie.

Um, but one of my favorite, so in, in, when they're writhing on, on the pain, writhing on the ground in pain. Writhing, writhing in the pain on the On the, in the ground. In the ground. Yes. Yes. Yes. I'm having trouble speaking feminine. It's that Medello, man. It's 

Jon: the Medello, or the heat. It is very toasty in here.

Yep. Sweating all the water way out. Goes right to my hips Quoting the Grinch. [00:26:00] I'm selling Grinch. My brain still has Grinch. Yeah, I'm a brain 

Don: But so Jim Carrey, yes So there Alan makes some Star Wars quote about like how Star Wars got it all wrong 

Jon: Oh, yeah, he's like Star Wars got it all wrong Death Star blew up.

Yes 

Don: And then, and then, um, Hoyt says, it's like, you do not question Star Wars. It's all accurate. And I'm like, hold up. That does not, that does not hold up. Not with the sequel trilogy that has come out. Yeah. It doesn't hold up. Yeah. With Leia in space. I'm sorry. I like, I was with you in 2010, but there's no way all of that's accurate now.

So that's just, that's a little soapbox I'm gonna stand on. Yeah, 

Jon: nerdy hot take. Nerdy hot take. I respect it. Yeah, those are some thoughts. 

Don: And then, did it? Did Alan say I just want to go somewhere and get breastfed right now? [00:27:00] Yeah Breastfed. Breastfed. I cannot articulate. Fred Breast. Fred Breast. Yes He doesn't say that.

Jon: He's like, I just want to go somewhere and be breastfed. 

Don: Yeah but so this is where like they have after this explosion when they're like Sitting on the cop car. This is when they have that heart to heart. 

Jon: Yeah. It's kind of like the existential moment. Like is what we're doing really worth it? Yeah. Do, should we keep going?

They kind of part ways for a little bit, but, 

Don: but this is where they find out. Uh, so, so this is where you're introduced to the backstory of Gator. Yep. Uh, and he's, he's just, you know, tuition went up back in college and he was just helping a girl make sure that she was safe. Wasn't it his roommate? It 

Jon: might have been his roommate.

I don't know. Yeah. It was a girl that he was friends with. Yeah. And she, yeah. Uh, she wanted to make some money by going out on dates and he would facilitate [00:28:00] scheduling and making sure he makes it there safely. Gets home safe. Yeah. He was not a pimp though. Not a pimp. Nope. No, you were definitely a pimp. No, no I was not.

And then he lost himself. He lost his identity. Yeah, one girl went to went up to 14 girls. 

Don: Yeah

Jon: That got away when he's like at that I don't even know what it was a shop and he had like a like a butterfly knife like it is grills

Yeah, but that's how we find that's how we find out like he is a Magnet to women and why women are really interested in him and 

Don: 14 girls. That's a stable horse. That's right. He's a 

Jon: yes, that's right.

Mark Wahlberg's delivery on like all these things like pointing these things out. I don't, I don't care for Mark [00:29:00] Wahlberg as an actor on the whole because I think he is a very loud actor. Sure. Which can be good for some type of movies. Makes sense because he's from Boston. It is really good if you have like a good dynamic with someone else and that fits in this movie really well.

Jon (2): Yeah. 

Jon: So I think He is good, but when he's really he's really good when he is doing those type of like factual Statements. Yeah, like when he's like 14 girls, that's a staple of horse like the way he delivers it Because of his natural inflection. It's perfect. Yes

Don: It's so good. And and so that's when they start going back to Irshad's office and saying like we're arresting you and Yep. And they start getting bribed. Yeah, 

Jon: they go to a Knicks game. Go to, oh, we got bribed. Then they go to a, um, what's the musical? They went to the Jersey Boys. Jersey Boys. Oh, we got [00:30:00] bribed again.

And, uh, they were bribed one more time, but they didn't fall for it that time, I don't think. 

Don: No, they I forget what the third one was going to be Yeah, I forget what the third bribe was going to be. I didn't write that one 

Jon: down I think they were like two Broadway shows or something. Maybe I don't remember 

Don: anyways.

Oh, they had the choice between Mama Mia and the Jersey Boys and they chose the Jersey Boy to go to the Jersey Boys. 

Jon: Okay. Okay. 

Don: Yeah, that's okay, 

Jon: but Yeah, I'd say, um, since that point fast forward a little bit more, um, they do, um, I'm thinking of one particular moment, but then I was going to fast forward to the moment after this, but basically they have like a, Will Ferrell's character has like this dinner and he's like really angry about it.

Oh, with Sheila. And then Sheila's like, but I'm pregnant. And he just like flips out. And this was like a very like pinnacle moment of him like [00:31:00] being Mr. Nice Guy or Gator. Yeah. And the, uh, 

Don: I 

Jon: think about this moment all the time when we found out that we were expecting. But I tried so hard not to say it because it's been so inappropriate.

He like stands up and he's like, Who did this to you? He's like who did this to you? 

Don: KJ's better be taking dough jimmies or whatever better be taking jimmies 

Jon: Who did this to you? I love it so much. What man did this to you? So 

Don: I so I paused the movie and I when uh So I paused the movie because I was also watching this with hannah Um, and I asked her, I'm like, what would you done if I said that to you when you told me that you were pregnant?

And I, this look Hannah gave me, I have never seen Hannah like you are out [00:32:00] of your God forsaken mind. If you think that this would have been okay for you to do, I've never seen her give me that look before. But it was hysterical. 

Jon: I think I gave it enough time where I would say it under my breath and she would hear it where we would talk about it a little bit.

And then I would just be like, who did this to you? Like, just kind of like a joke for myself kind of thing. Love it, though. It's so abrupt. It's so intense. And the buildup for it, I wouldn't say like that was the moment for the movie, but the buildup of him being like a little bit of a too nice of a guy, very straight lay and you see him like kind of peeking in and out of being like his gator.

You know, pimp vibes, but then this was like his full blown, like, uncontrolled, loose cannon. Yeah. And then he gets kicked out. Rightfully so. Oh, rightfully so. Yeah. So good. I love that moment. Um, but I was going to fast forward though, to [00:33:00] the part where they finally like the two, the other guys and, um, the other guys and Ershon, um, finally like agree, I guess, 

Don: Rightfully I'm kind of fast forwarding quite a bit right now.

So I want one, I want to say one thing before we go on. So they were, they're instructed to turn over everything to the sec, um, because like this is realistically tipping point. Yeah. So they're instructed to take everything to the sec, um, and that person that they're instructed to give it to is or Sean's lawyer.

And he's like, I will impartially look through all of this. Who is David Wallace? Yeah. From the office. And then they get a call that there's someone out on a ledge and it's David Wallace or Sean's lawyer. Yeah. Uh, and he looks drunk and you can only presume it's [00:34:00] because he looked through everything and he actually apparently has a conscience and is, has to turn like himself in and all this other stuff.

And so instead of doing that, he is going to attempt suicide. He got drunk off gin and. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Unalive himself. Yes. He did. Yeah. And he did. But so they're trying to, they're competing of who the other guys are competing, who's going to actually be able to take them off the ledge. And at this point, captain took away, uh, Allen's wooden gun and just gave him a rape whistle.

Yeah. And so they're unable, they are unable to take him off the ledge. Unsuccessful in talking him off the ledge. Mm-hmm . Literally. Yeah. And so, and he falls and he, and he's falling and Alan's like, oh look, he's flying. And then he splats Yes. And blows the whistle for someone to come help him, like his captain instructed

Yeah. And I just thought that [00:35:00] was hysterical. Yeah. The for, um. That, that was a real good 

Jon: moment for me in the movie, I guess. No, that was great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm glad you brought that up, because that was, that was probably the tipping point, though, because that's when everything, like, they all hit their actual low.

Yeah. Because, yes, uh, Will Ferrell's character did, is kind of having like a, like a clashing of personalities going on mentally. For sure. And, um, and Mark Wahlberg's character, Hoist, is uh, At his all time low where now he's being like basically a traffic. Yeah, he's a traffic cop. Yep. He's a traffic cop. And so now they're like trying to figure out what to do.

They're trying to figure out what to do next, um, for themselves. And so. Uh, Will Ferrell's character gets his act together, whatever that means. Yeah, he's walking a beat and he's still working the case. Yep. Yeah. And [00:36:00] he's actually like kind of agreeing with like letting the two personalities meld together in a way.

And I'm not talking like he has an actual like split personality disorder or anything like that, but like he's allowing like him to be aggressive and continuing on with what he believes all the while still Following orders. 100%. So he's like kind of accepting where he's at right now. And also Mark Wahlberg becomes like, you know, police of the month or whatever for 

Don: his 

Jon: duty.

Don: Content. Yeah. Content with his life. Yeah. Um, no, good points. I'm glad you brought that. I brought that up. Yeah. And then, you know, Alan approaches, Alan approaches Hoyts and says like, look, like I found all this evidence. They're going to, they're going after the lottery. We gotta, uh, we gotta stop them before.

You know, they actually steal this 32 billion because that's the crazy amount of money that they're going after. And [00:37:00] so he convinces, he's like, well, I'm going to do it with or without you. And, uh, so then the next morning they go to see, uh, Captain Gene, Michael Keaton and Bed Bath Beyond. And the, the, how nice.

And. Like pleasant Captain Jean is at Bed Bath and Beyond versus how he is at the police, right? It's just so like they're almost two different characters and the TLC quotes are hysterical are killing mark. No, are killing Will Ferrell. Yeah. Like, what do you mean? No scrubs? Like, yeah, that's TLC. I've never heard of him.

No idea what you're talking about. 

Jon: Yep. Um, Yeah, I feel like the next step is really just kind of like, uh, we're kind of doing the final like car chasing. Yeah. There's a moment too where they like take a break and they're like [00:38:00] hiding in, um, or Sean's apart apartment. Yes. Thank you. Uh, that no one knows about except parents and prostitutes, which was very specific.

Uh, they, uh, Mark Wahlberg and will frail kind of like make at peace with like their loved ones, which

one of them is like kind of, okay, it's like a nice little date thing or whatever. And they would like Mark Wahlberg's thing is like, Cool, fine, great. And then the other one with Will Ferrell is very highly sexually driven between, uh, uh, Sheila and Will Ferrell, where they have their mother, uh, her mother be the messenger between the two.

I can't do this anymore! You 

Don: guys are saying such personal things! Yep, yep, yep. That she like comes out as, [00:39:00] as her mother, but her, her mother, poor, poor 

Jon: soul. Yep. Poor soul. She doesn't deserve it, but she, but she did the work. She did the work. Yeah. Um, yeah. And then it's basically the car chase scene. Uh, they do pull Prius against everyone helicopter, which is cheating.

Right. Uh, very clearly, very clearly. And they make it all the way to The point, the whole point of the car chase scene is prompted by they need to get to the bank by 9am, which is when the transfer hits. And that way, 

Don: because, because they're not going after the lottery, they're actually stealing the 32 billion from the police pension, which means they would have been taking all the money from all the cops and, and not, and not the lottery, which Bob gave them the right to vote on.

But They chose not to vote on it earlier in the movie. Shut up, Bob. 

Jon: Shut up, Bob. There's a lot of [00:40:00] good timing on the phrase, shut up. I loved it. It's so good. 

Don: But I think during that cartridge scene, I don't understand how they got. The Prius. I was wondering 

Jon: that too. I don't like. Up on the parking elevated thing.

Don: Yeah. Yeah. No idea. Yeah. How? How do they get up there? How do, no idea. I, I've never been in New York long enough to know how you could like elevate your parking game like that. Pun intended. 

Jon: Pun intended. Yeah. Also too, they um, when they like parked the Prius like in the top golf thing or whatever. Yeah.

They ran away from it cause they were getting shot at by the helicopter. But then they next shot, like, or next scene, they like drive with it. Well, you can assume they walk 

Don: back. Yeah. Also, that's a dream as someone who golfs and enjoys going to the driving range. And when you're at the driving range, you always aim for the, the person who's driving the cart to pick up the balls.

Like it's fun to hit them [00:41:00] hitting a helicopter midair. Once in a lifetime bucket list moment. I would love, I would love to do that. Yeah. Have you ever been to the driving range? I 

Jon: haven't done a driving range since 2014. 

Don: Okay, we have to do a driving range. 

Jon: Yeah, I've been interested in doing it again since Because once, once, like, once you My hip motion is what I'm nervous about.

That's fair. You can do all arms. Yeah, you know, handicap. 

Don: No, earnestly. I know, but like, that's kind of Because you have a handicap in golf. Yeah. And you You said it. It was a little punny. That's why I laughed. Oh, I wasn't even trying. You don't know what you're talking about. TLC. Just don't go chasing waterfalls.

Jon: They, uh, they make it to the building. They make it there on time. There's kind of a weird Mexican [00:42:00] standoff happening between the Australian. Group 

Don: and the Nigerians. Uh, no, the, not the Australians and the other guys and the guy who runs the transfer at poor guy port. Yeah. 

Jon: He didn't ask for it. He didn't, he didn't know what was happening.

Yeah. Super confused. Even like was so confused that he even asked the guy threatening him with a gun. Like, so do you want me to transfer it or not? Right. I feel like I would be that guy. Honestly, like a very honest, like. Can you remind me what we're doing?

Like my ignorance, I'm okay being shot at for my ignorance. It was on me for not following this event thoroughly.

I deserve being shot, but I need to know what's happening. 

Don: Like, look, I'm [00:43:00] not saying you're wrong. Like I get it. Like I'd shoot me too. No, for real. 

Jon: I've done that with actual police officers before. So I know from experience, I would do that.

Did you just jump that fence? I don't, is there any other way? I 

Don: don't know how to get out. You, you expected me to like dig under the fence? Like, what are we talking about? That literally 

Jon: happened. I actually said to a cop who's, there's a lot of context to the story that I wouldn't mind sharing at some, like someday or whatever.

Basically, like I was in an area I shouldn't have been. The only way to get in and out is Jumping a fence, and when I got out, there was a bunch of cops, like, talking to me and my friends, and a cop, when I walked up to the group, he's like, did you just jump that fence? And I said, sir, any other way? And one of my friends, like, just verbally was like, John, shut up.[00:44:00] 

Which I would have said that to me, too, if I was in that group now. I think my brain was thinking, like, if there was another way for me to get out more, like, properly, I would have done that. But the point wasn't that. The point was Did I do, did I trespass? And I, and I did. That's a fantastic story. Oh, it can be a lot more in depth too.

I'm just giving you the clip notes of it. I do that a lot with cops, like very earnestly. I do 

Don: that a lot with cops. 

Jon: That's wild. Okay, I'm going to give you a citation. Oh, great. 

Don: Cool. Whatever. You're just doing your job, man. And I'm here to support you. For real.

Jon: So was I really going five over the speed limit?

There's a lot here. I don't mind sharing any of [00:45:00] this someday. If we ever do a Q and a Q and a, just ask me. Yes. And AMA. Yeah. AMA. Yeah. Oh, which you can do that by five star share with a friend. Yeah. Comment all that good stuff. I'll share about that later. Yes. The line of the episode is so close to the end here.

Right. Um, to our movie.

So yeah. Movie basically 

Don: wraps up though. Right. Yeah. Um, yeah. So the movie, so they stopped the transfer because Michael Keaton comes in, makes a couple other TLC quotes at the end of the movie. Total coincidence. For sure. He doesn't even know. Doesn't know what? Nope. Yeah. Um, and so now Ice T is like narrating over this.

And so there was one thing that I wanted to point out and correct me if I'm wrong, But in the, so the, for the, almost the whole movie. Allen is trying to [00:46:00] prove that and like verbally to everybody that he is a cop, but it's not until the end scene when, uh, him, Ellen and Hoyts are getting hot dogs that you actually see him wear his badge around his neck.

For the entire movie up until this point, you've not seen Will Ferrell's character with a badge. And now he's like showing and identifying to people that he is a cop. So I just, I just thought that was, I thought that was cool that like you, you know, you, he has the best of Gator, the best of, um, of Allen makes a good, comfortable, comfortable.

Yeah. 

Jon: No, good point. So, yeah. And then they have a new car, not a Prius, but it runs a hundred percent on vegetable. Yes. 100 percent on vegetable oil. Oil. Yes. Uh, which is hilarious cause it's a muscle [00:47:00] car, but yeah, beside the point and we see a peacock. Flying. Yeah. A highly CGI peacock flying over Nathan's hot dogs.

Yes. Yeah. And roll credits. Well, speaking of credits, did you watch them? I did not. No, no, no, no. Okay. I didn't have time, 

Don: but I noticed that there was like a lot going on. So I, so I watched the theatrical edition. That's what I own on DVD. Um, and you get the history of a Ponzi scheme. I did see that start to roll.

And then you get, um, uh, which is pretty much just a multi level marketing scheme. That's exactly what it is. And MLM. MLM, yep. And then, You get all of like these scary financial stats about like the Goldman Sachs buyout and all of the, and all of these [00:48:00] other crazy, like factual, like facts in 2010. And so like, they probably haven't changed, but like all these facts are like, yeah, like when Goldman Sachs got bought out, all these people got all of these.

Bonuses, millions of millions of millions of bonuses, but like all of the employees were like out of work or something like that. And just the discrepancies in American capitalism. So so interesting. Yeah. It was if you when watching this movie, 10 out of 10 recommend watching the credits. 

Jon (2): Hmm. 

Don: Um, 10 out of 10 rating.

Um, I, so I, yeah, I have no problem going first. I,

eight out of 10, I think I agree. Yeah. This movie's fantastic. Highly underrated. Highly underrated. Um, Pete, when people think of [00:49:00] Mark Wahlberg movies, people wouldn't even put this in their top five. And I would say it's probably one of my favorite top, like one of my favorite Mark Wahlberg, but like you put like Talladega Nights, Anchorman, Stepbrothers.

Old school and then people get to the other guys and like somebody else may have like a favorite Will Ferrell movie like some people may be like me pro semi pro some people seen that I haven't seen. I haven't seen semi pro. I haven't seen Blades of Glory. You should, you would like that movie. 

Jon: I, I believe it, but like, those are, I know your point though.

Yeah. Yeah. 

Don: Yeah. I know. I totally get your point. So like, I think this is an underrated movie for both of them. 

Jon (2): Yeah. 

Don: Uh, underrated movie for Michael Keaton. Like this is a great movie for him. Yeah. Uh, you get to see a lot, uh, like a funner side of him instead of like a lot of the serious roles or scheming or yeah, whatever.

Yeah. So. Um, [00:50:00] yeah. Yeah. 10. Recommend watching the credits. 8 out of 10 for rating this fantastic movie. Yep. I agree. 

Jon: 8 

Don: out of 10. 

Jon: Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, moving on to the production angle of it. Adam McKay, Will Ferrell's partner in a lot of these like 2010s movies, described the Genesis as an accident in a way, something from a dinner he had with Will Ferrell.

He and Will Ferrell had with Mark Wahlberg. After noticing the actor's chemistry, McKay wrote to producer Kevin Messick in email hypothesizing a possible film starring the two. Giving a cop film as an example of what he thought would work, Messick suggested developing that idea into a film. Principal photography for the film began in September 23rd, 2009 in New York City.

Additional scenes were filmed in Albany and Staten Island. Practical FX, which. Cool. Hope, hope you [00:51:00] all can someone who needs to know that just found out, uh, son coordinator said in an interview that for gambles car, they use three Priuses, including one with a racing engine. So large. It had to go in the back seat, 

Don: but also I love how the, the, the car slow, like after the, the homeless people took it over, it didn't have a door.

And then it had a, and then. When they were driving home, it just had plastic on it, and then they actually put a different, like a white replacement door on it. 

Jon: Yeah. Uh, the box office for this, the, uh, budget for it was 80, 000. Uh, 85 to 100 million and the actual return was 170. 9 million. So not that great.

No. Makes sense why the other guys too hasn't come out yet. 

Don: Well, didn't you say [00:52:00] in another, in, in, in another one of our movies that Will Ferrell typically doesn't like doing yet for Elf, he doesn't like doing, he doesn't like doing sequels? Nah, he doesn't. But he did do Daddy's Home 2 and Anchorman 2, but Anchorman 2 didn't do super well.

And yeah, he's not a big sequel guy. Yeah. So that makes sense. There's like a 

Jon: myriad of reasons why, but I mean, financially, you couldn't, uh, you couldn't argue practically for, for that. Um, got anything else? Otherwise, I can go into the last segment. I do. Yeah, go 

Don: for it. Um, so Adam McKay, And Will Ferrell wrote, actually wrote Pimping Ain't Easy, the song that Sheila and I wrote.

Will Ferrell sing like kind of like sweetly to each other like it's a whole Song interesting that they wrote and it was recorded in the credits [00:53:00] and they have writing credits got a song I think I forget who recorded it and I can't find it right now But I just thought that was a fun fact that they not only like wrote and like like kind of Came up with this movie together and like produced it, but they also actually wrote a song for the movie.

Yeah. 

Jon: And that's a great segment into the other trivia.

First bit of trivia I got for you is that this is the fourth of the five productions between Will Ferrell and Adam McKay. Uh, Anchorman, Talladega Nights, Stepbrothers. The other guys in Anchorman 2. Okay. Which is why they all have the same vibe. Yeah. And why Will Ferrell had such a huge, like, movie trajectory in the 2010s.

Yeah. Uh, the narrator already said this one before. The movie is uncredited ice tea. Also, There are three actors in here that all starred in New Girl, which we already talked about too, but just wanted to list them out. Zoe Lister [00:54:00] Jones, I almost said Zoe Lister Jones, me, uh, Rob Riggle and Damon Wayne Jr.

There 

Don: was also two actors from The Office. So we talked about David Wallace, but also the guy from, Aaron's 

Jon: boyfriend, scrawny guy from Sabre. Yes. Yeah. He was in it. Yeah. How so and so, she died. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Uh, Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg both made a cameo. On WWE Raw to promote the film. 

Don: Okay. 

Jon: Fun fact.

That is a fun fact. During the desk pop scene. We forgot about the desk pop. Had his first desk pop. Desk pop? No, that's not real. They were so convincing in their argument. Apartment pop. During the desk pop scene, Bobby Cannavale states that his last desk pop was in September 08, which is [00:55:00] significant as the collapse of the financial and real estate markets began and the government takeover of home mortgage lenders on September 7th, 2008 Lehman brothers filed for bankruptcy on September 15th, 2008 and the TARP bailout begins to take shape.

Don: Yeah, so, okay. They talk about TARP bailouts in the credits and about like how much each person, like, if every person needed a TARP bailout, this is how much you would get. It's like a couple, a couple grand, but they're giving millions of TARP bailouts in 08 to, you know, Goldman Sachs and other big companies.

So like this movie is. Sort of like anti capitalism, anti fed in the guise of a hilarious buddy cop movie. All 

Jon: right. Last trivia segment for today from the other trivia, uh, Gambles, Will Ferrell's college flashback nickname as a pimp was [00:56:00] Gator. The nickname of a lead pimp in the Blaxploitation classic Truck Turner from 1974.

Fun fact. Maybe we'll talk about those kind of movies some other day. Uh, anyways. None of you guys are going to get that. But, uh, that's it. One day. That's it for this episode. Yeah. Thank you guys so much for checking out this film. We already hinted to you guys what we're going to do for the next episode.

If you guys were paying attention, good for you. If not, good for you. Listen to it again. Give it a five star review. Share it with a friend. Maybe they'll find out what the next movie is that we're going to talk about in this series. Yeah. So we 

Don: will in this prep for flight risk. And so I'm excited for all of the 

Jon: movies that are coming in 2025.

So many movies, so many good movies. All right. With that being said, thank you guys for checking it out again, five star comment chair. It's been journey. Darn peace. [00:57:00] Bye.